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Bronica vs. Hasselblad
September 2004 - This piece is now quite dated having been written a some years ago

At the risk of offending a great many people with my pedestrian attempt to justify my purchase decision, here in blue and white are the quantifiable financial reasons for going with Bronica over the venerable Hasselblad. I should note that other then a very brief moment holding a basic Hasselblad kit in my hands at a friend's wedding, I have no experience with Hasselblad bodies or the companion Carl Zeiss lenses.

I needed to get the most bang for the buck for the features I desired and after finally deciding to go with the 6x6 format, it wasn't too hard to figure out which company's products I would go with. I would be remiss to deny that I didn't have some nagging little bit inside of me wishing that I could afford to buy into the Hasselblad system and arguably, into the finest lens manufacturing company in the world today. The lenses are key to any photographic system and Zeiss lenses have obviously been the real key to Hasselblad's legend. I am, however, not willing to take out a second mortage on my home just for the sake of minute advantages in lens formulations and coatings. I need to eventually build up a respectable complement of lenses to go with my camera of choice and the thought of paying double or even triple the price for the privelage of owning Zeiss lenses (or for any other Hasselblad accessory) was not ever in my plans.

All prices in US $ unless otherwise stated – taken from the latest B&H catalog at hand, June 1999

Bronica
Hasselblad
SQ-B kit     $1999 
(Comprises of SQ-b body, 80mm ‘B’ lens, 120 ‘B’  film back and waist level finder. Major differences between the B kit and the regular SQ-Ai pieces are the lack of contacts on the B body to couple to metered prisms. Due to this, the B film back does not have an ISO dial. The B 80mm lens also lacks the Timer Lever for very long exposures without draining the batteries) The B body also has limited shutter speed settings with a slowest speed of 8 seconds only with no Bulb setting.

501-CM kit     $2695 
501 body, 80mm lens, A12 filmback and waist level finder

SQ-Ai kit     $2495
(body, 80mm lens, 120 film back
and waist level finder)

503-CW kit     $4211
(body, 80mm lens, 120 film back
and waist level finder)

SQ-Ai body     $1099

503-CW body     $1797

120 film back     $539.50

A12 film back     $695

220 film back     $539.50

A24 film back     $795

Polaroid Back     $450

Polaroid Back     $397

Waist Level Finder     $162.50 

Waist Level Finder     $240

45 Degree Finder     $675 

PM-5 45 Degree Finder     $995

Prism Finder     $640 

PM-90 Finder     $635

Metered Prism Finder     $1209 

PME-90 Finder     $1193

SQ-Ai Motor Drive     $699

CW Winder     $949

 
Lenses and Lens Accessories
40mm f4     $1799
40mm f4     $4115
50mm f3.5     $1570
50mm f4     $2804
65mm f4     $1435
60mm f3.5     $2037
80mm f2.8     $1099
80mm f2.8     $1788
110mm f4.5 Macro (1:1)     $1429
120mm f4 Macro     $2885
150mm f4     $1570
150mm f4     $2867
180mm f4.5     $1995
180mm f4     $2995
250mm f5.6     $1790 
250mm 5.6     $3201
1.4x Teleconvertor     $865 
1.4x Teleconvertor     $1055
2X Teleconvertor     $845
2x Teleconvertor     $1278
18mm Extension Tube     $475
16mm Extension Tube     $296
36mm Extension Tube     $475
32mm Extension Tube     $318

Obviously not all lenses and accessories have been listed and there are some differences in what exactly is available from both companies. But I have tried to compare the closest pieces of equipment and omitted some where there are no direct comparisons possible such as the Bronica 200mm f4 lens. As there is no current Zeiss equivalent listed, I did not add this lens to the above list.

We can see from the price comparisons that some Hasselblad items are very favorably priced and at times even lower then Bronica, such as the Extension tubes. The metered prism finders are very close to each other. On an overall basis however, the Bronica comes out ahead in value. It is when comparing the lens prices that the real differences come out and the make or break situation arises. In some cases like the 40mm wide angle and the 120mm macro lenses, the price differential is double. I will also add that in Canada, the prices are even more pronounced against Hasselblad. My Bronica kit as is, is at least 50% less then the comparable Hasselblad kit.

I realize that Hasselblad users will have many reasons to justify the increased amount of money required to get into the system and I would be interested in reading about them but they would have to be very good for me to understand why. Perhaps the build quality is superior in a minute sort of way. Perhaps again the optical formulation and lens coating is still superior to all other competitors. Perhaps by putting all these little differences together, they will result in real, quantifiable reasons for the added expense. I wouldn’t mind putting the two systems in a head to head direct comparison to see which system really is tops. But I don’t have to.

A British reviewer has already done so and he stated that he saw no compelling reason why the Hasselblad should cost so much more then Bronica. He found the Hasselblad body (the 503) to be quirkier with no appreciable difference in the optics between the Zeiss and the Zenzanon. Now, it doesn’t mean that we should take the reviewer’s words to be gospel. It is simply one man’s opinion and I myself feel that British magazines and reviewers can be as suspect as their American counterparts. The review in question is from Photo Technique Magazine, April/May 1997 issue; reviewer was David Torn.

My conversation with the pro shooting my friend Sean’s wedding gave me some food for thought on the subject. He shot with a basic Hasselblad kit. I’m not sure which body (I think a 501) but he used an 80mm and 150mm lens, a 45 degree finder and one or two film backs for the formal posed shots. He had a very simple, classic kit. He mentioned that before buying into the Hasselblad kit, he had a Bronica system and the only reason he changed was that he thought he was getting a big upgrade. His user experience suggested otherwise. He was happy enough to have bought into Hasselblad but he wouldn’t have missed anything if he stayed with the Bronica.

That is basically the crux of my own opinion about the European products. Very fine, beautiful in their own way items but in the real world, not likely to provide anything more then what the Japanese made products can give. If I were stinking rich, I still don't think I would buy into a Hasselblad system. Although, I would certainly give into my desire to taste the fruits of the fabled German made lenses. How can I do this without buying a Hasselblad? Simple. Buy into a Rollei system and indulge in the benefits of two supposidely superb German lens lines of Zeiss and Schneider. The cost of the Rollei system is about comparable to a full blown Hasselblad system but with more advanced features available. Both obviously have their benefits and drawbacks. The Rollei is all electronic and the Hasselblad for the most part is all mechanical. Since the original topic is about Bronica vs. Hasselblad and not Rollei vs. Hasselblad, I won't comment any further on comparing the two European brands. I don't like dreaming about pie in the sky and it would be fruitless for me to get carried away about what if's. I own a Bronica system now and I'm very happy with it. My priorities are to enhance the basic kit I have now and pick up more accessories and lenses for the SQ-Ai.

I will say this for Hasselblad. I think the 503 body with the winder and prism meter attached is one of the sexiest looking kits in all of photography but still not worth the money it commands. Maybe we can liken Hasselblad/Zeiss to Rolex. Beautiful products, very well made with immense pride of ownership but in the end does the Rolex keep better time then the Seiko? (Seiko, incidentally, makes the shutters for Bronica and Mamiya)  Not at all and in most cases, Rolexes keep poor time due to their mechanical build. Does this sound familiar? How does one justify $10,000 for a time piece that isn't even as accurate over a $500 Japanese precision made product? Or for that matter a $50 Timex? The 24k gold and diamonds and unmatched workmanship help to lesson the financial hit to some degree but such products will always have a captive market clientele that want the absolute perceived best and will pay whatever the cost to have it. I don't begrudge them and if I had that kind of money I would be the same way.

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